A common question we hear is: “Can I ride my moped on dirt or gravel roads?” which always raises our eyebrows as adventure riders.
We love their curiosity, but question their sanity at the same time. Then again, the following comes as a surprise to many.
You can ride mopeds and petrol 50cc scooters offroad on dirt tracks and gravel tracks, and even try a few small jumps. However, they aren’t designed for this purpose and you may void your warranty. You can, however, ride on unsealed roads to access your home without a problem; just ride slow.
So not all is lost if you happen to live on a rural property, though for adventure-riding, it’s best to upgrade to a better motorcycle. Even something affordable like the BMW 310GS or Honda’s CR250 would be enough for most people.
Taking a moped offroad
To take a moped offroad, there are some things to keep in mind. Essentially:
You’ll need to ride slowly at no more than 25mph. This is to reduce damage to the undercarriage and not to place too much strain from the constant bumping around.
The front shock absorbs aren’t designed for so much strain, so keep this in mind.
Your braking distance will be longer because you’re most likely to skid with a moped on a dirt road, similar to as you would if the bitumen was actually soaking wet.
You can expect dust to get into everything so cleaning your moped will certainly become a mission!
There is a high risk of punctures when riding mopeds or scooters offroad. These tyres aren’t designed to withstand the brutal nature off gravel tracks.
It’s not something we envision for you and only something you should do if you really must.
Two examples of mopeds offroad
There are two shining examples of where you could take a moped offroad. Well…sort of.
Firstly, in Australia, their postal delivery service called Australia Post uses small motorcycles that look like mopeds and have 110cc engines. They are affectionately called posties and traverse every town and suburb daily in Australia to deliver the mail.
Interestingly enough, given their reliability, they’re also used by people learning to ride a motorcycle offroad. Their semi-automatic gearbox (4 gears) and ease of power make things very easy for the end user. You’ll find people doing mini tours and group rides with this bike since they are very affordable with parts available everywhere.
Then someone decided to take this a step further. In fact, a lot further!
So secondly, we have Nathan Millward who rode a CT110 postie bike 10 years ago from Sydney to London, with many times traversing dirt roads and many times in countries which have never before seen a postie bike. What a mission!
So you could even say that it’s possible to ride a moped around the world!
Since then, Nathan has created his own YouTube channel which inspires others to get out there and see the world. If you have been on the ADVRider forums at all, you probably have came across his story.
In summary
It’s generally a bad idea to go ‘bush bashing’ with a moped, however there are some bikes such as the Honda CT110 which are built tough. You have to consider whether it’s worth the effort or simply spending the extra few dollars on a true adventure motorcycle.
Just remember that in asia, mopeds are often used for years on bumpy roads, both bitumen and otherwise. So it’s very much possible, but not so comfortable either.
As for doing jumps, it’s very difficult to have much fun on mopeds when riding on MX tracks and the like. Their power is just too soft and the suspension isn’t up to the task ahead. These days, dirt bikes have become so much more affordable, so you may wish to consider 2 bikes. One for the daily commute and another for the weekend pursuits!
One of the most common questions asked is: “Can I take my Can-Am Spyder on to dirt roads?” by both current and future owners.
It sounds so inviting to be able to take your 3 wheel machine and whip it around the corners, while letting the backend slide out. It certainly will make you feel like riding a jet ski.
You can ride a Can-Am Spyder on dirt and gravel roads, though it isn’t advisable for road-based models such as the Spyder F3 and RT as you may damage the drive belt with gravel rocks. Can-Am released the Ryker several years ago to address riders who desired to take their Spyder offroad, but risked voiding the warranty or chasing damage. Should you desire a Spyder yet want to ride mainly on dirt, then the Ryker is much better suited.
There are certainly ways to get your Spyder offroad-ready without needing to essentially buy 2 motorcycles.
Getting a Can-Am Spyder Offroad
To setup your Spyder for gravel roads, it’s best to get a belt guard to prevent rocks flicking up and damaging the drive wheel and belt. Another great tip is to simply drive slower.
Understandably, the marketing wizards at Can-Am invite us to ride recklessly with their promotional content. In reality, however, it’s easy to damage a Spyder if you’re riding too fast on dirt roads. The exception is, of course, the Ryker which can safely handle such terrain at speeds.
Another tip is to carry a spare belt with you for repairs on the side of the road. Given the Spyder is belt-driven, not chain-driven like dirt bikes or dual sport motorcycles, these can break with abrasion that you’ll find with hot tar, ashphalt, gravel and loose rocks.
Speeds for Spyder on dirt roads.
As we’ve mentioned, it’s best to ride a little slowly if you’re taking your Can-Am Spyder offroad.
Ideally, aim for 30 miles per hour when riding a Spyder on the gravel, even if it’s your own driveway. In some areas, you may find the gravel is more hard-packed and thus, you may feel comfortable to stretch into the 40 to 50 mile per hour range.
You’ll generally know what’s safe and comfortable by the amount of stones which are being picked up. You’ll hear their ‘ping’ underneath the body of your trike. If it’s overwhelming, then you’re definitely riding too fast for the conditions.
Do remember that it takes longer to stop on gravel tracks and you run the risk of sliding under heavy braking. Your ABS also doesn’t really have as much effectiveness and could even work against you in such situations.
Things to consider
If you have a pillion passenger, then this changes the dynamics. With more force on the rear tyre, there’s less risk of losing traction but also, might create more stopping distance when offroad.
You also have to consider other road users. Should you be riding on logging routes, then these truck drivers often drive recklessly because they’re being paid on each load carted, as opposed to hourly rates. Even if they are paid hourly, then their often tested to ensure they’re sticking to expected run times.
Be wary around corners and give other vehicles plenty of space. On muddy roads, the Spyder certainly becomes a loose weapon and you can have a lot of fun, but things can certainly go wrong too!
Final thoughts
It’s fun to take a Spyder offroad, but if this is your intention going forward, then we can recommend the Ryker. It’s so much more fun making the back end loose through the corners!
Should you live on a rural property, then don’t let the fear of riding offroad to get to your garage put your off from buying one of these incredible machines. After all, you’re only riding a short distance before finding yourself on the freedom of the highways!
So when is KTM’s electric dirt bike (Freeride E-XC) available to buy in Australia? We’re curious as well since electric dirt bikes are the future.
As of April 7th 2020, there is no formal announcement from KTM Australia as to when they will release it locally. However, as shown on their website, they are recommending that you contact dealers.
A bit strange, isn’t it? Especially when their marketing overseas is so powerful:
We’re really keen and excited to see how this changes the local market.
Overview of the KTM E-XC Australia
The future belongs to those who innovate. As the world progressively runs out of fossil fuels, it’s time to move on to electric consumption.
KTM is leading the way here. While Yamaha, Honda and Suzuki are trying to launch electric dirt bikes in Australia, it’s KTM who’s ahead of the pack.
The KTM Freeride E-XC is now available in Europe and North America. Clearly the demand in those markets is very strong compared to that locally.
In fact, KTM is now on to their second generation of electric dirt bikes. So it’s quite unfortunate that these aren’t available locally because places to ride dirt bikes in Australia are hard to come across.
Reasons to own an electric dirt bike
We really see the gas guzzlers or what we like to call “steam engines” eventually being overtaken by these electric-driven machines in terms of sales. They already overtake petrol bikes in drag races based on the high torque and lack of gears.
And there happens to be many more reasons to own an electric dirt bike:
No neighbours to annoy because the engine is quiet
The maintenance and servicing for the bike is a lot less
You won’t need to worry about refuelling on the track
Riders can have basic conversions when riding side by side
The weight of an electric dirt bike is almost half of an electric bike
Easier for beginners as there is no clutch and gears to worry about
With many councils restricting riding areas in the past due to noise complaints, we do look forward to these previously banned areas opening up again.
Current alternatives to KTM E-Ride
Did you know that you don’t have to wait until the launch of the KTM E-XC in Australia. There are good alternatives already available in the market.
One such example is the Stealth Bomber. This is the most popular version with the price the equivalent of a KTM 250cc 4-stroke.
We’ve actually written a guide showing all the electric dirt bikes available in Australia. It’s worth a read especially as you can find new bikes for less than $5,000 including a road-registered model.
Essentially, it’s a great way to tie yourself over until the bike is available locally, since this is still some time away.
Australian KTM E-XC launch date
This is our opinion only as we’re closely following industry news:
We foresee the launch of the KTM E-XC happening in Australia towards late 2020 or early 2021. It takes time for the following reasons:
KTM is still doing R&D testing in Europe
They need to meet local emissions testing
ADR compliance takes time to get approval
Their development team is likely looking for road-registration approval
Dealerships across the country need to re-train their mechanics and sales team on the characteristics of this electric dirt bike
And finally…the anticipation will likely drive up interest and sales.
Let’s hope that Yamaha, Honda and Suzuki don’t beat them to the market. There are approximate 30 KTM dealers in Australia patiently waiting for the arrival of the Freeride E-XC and we’re sure they want the first-mover advantage in the market.
The waiting game
While you’re waiting, have a look at some of the incredible power and response that the KTM Freeride E-XC bike has. It seems that once you go electric, you never go back!
As they are already used in motocross, you can expect this electric banger to change the face of the industry as well, not just trail riders.
From there, it’s assumed that KTM will take into the adventure riding market with replacing the 690R with an electric equilavent. For now though, that’s a few years away.
We would just love to see the Freeride E-XC, with such fanfare internationally, available locally first. It’s been 3 years now.
Bring it on KTM Australia. We’re ready when you are.
Many would say “Why should I choose an adventure motorcycle vs a car?” – which is a fair point. After all, you could see the world out of a windscreen.
But compared to cars, there are just significantly more advantages.
Adventure Motorcycles vs Cars: Motorcycles are better because:
Total freedom that many car drivers just don’t understand. The wind in your hair, twisty roads and the elements.
Easier to spark conversations with locals as you don’t come across as a rich tourist with $700k 4×4 motorhome.
Maintenance is significantly easier and cheaper, with parts often fitting a range of different branded motorcycles.
Much easier to ship your bike to a new continent either with air or sea freight. Try flying a 4×4 motorhome over!
All in all, just a cheaper way to see the world, from lowered tolls and carnet to reduced upfront and fuel costs.
Then again, it isn’t for everyone. This is why you see so few people riding motorcycles compared to cars.
Challenges of ADV Riding
When you’re out there in the elements, you can expect to get wet even with a waterproof jacket. Your safety is compromised both when riding and sleeping in a tent, though you’ll find the world to be significantly safer than others perceive it to be.
Also, there is no climate control – you’ll be enjoying the harshness of environments. If it’s raining, you’ll be soaked unless you’re wearing a waterproof jacket and pants. If it’s hot, then you’ll be sweating regardless of what you wear.
Yet compared to airline travel, seeing the world by motorcycle is significantly more eco-conscious and in my opinion, 2nd only to sailing.
Many riders choose to purchase an adventure motorcycle vs a car for these reasons. Even if you’re only doing trips to and from work, the benefits far outweigh the downsides.
In short
So if you’re looking for freedom without breaking the bank, then these key reasons are why motorcycle adventuring has become insanely popular over recent years.
And sure – we’ll admit we’re definitely biased. After all, we are an adventure motorcycling brand.
Buying an adventure motorcycle vs buying a car is different. Owning your 1st bike is a great way to get started. Something small and light initially to learn skills before you evolve and develop.
While we dream of having a new adventure motorcycle, unfortunately, a used ADV motorcycle is all we can afford right now.
And you know, there is nothing to be disappointed about it. Most motorcycles bought are actually used, with most of us only stepping inside of dealerships to purchase protective equipment. New motorcycles are often not worth the hype unless you want that new-bike feeling which doesn’t last long.
It’s a wise idea actually – let someone else lose 20% of the value via depreciation. Save that extra for fuel, gear, beer and a few nice camping spots.
In this guide, we’re going to show you how to be a pre-owned, second-hand or used ADV motorcycle without being ripped off.
Let’s begin.
How to Buy a Used Adventure Bike
Buying a used adventure bike for a weekend exploring or global touring isn’t hard. It always starts fundamentally with research.
1. Find your ideal adventure bike
Firstly you’ll want to figure out what the perfect used adventure bike will suit you best. There are practically many bikes on the market that are suitable for all types of touring.
Now that starts with what type of terrain you’ll be covering. If you’re sticking to 80% bitumen then a dirt-orientated motorcycle like the KTM690R would not be the right adventure motorcycle for you. Its suspension and tyre setup will just be uncomfortable. A BMW F800GS would be better suited.
However, both these motorcycles are heavy and not suited to the dirt tracks. If this is your style of riding, then a 250 would be better suited, with a 450 necessary for the heavier riders. The 250 wins because it’s easy to pick up when you crash, and yes, you will crash eventually.
Our recommendation is to find out what others are riding. Often dealerships are recommending heavy bikes while ADV riders who have been riding for 3+ years choose lightweight bikes without the bling. Even a 250 can reach 65 miles / 100km per hour on the highway, though they are better orientated for offroad adventures. We’ve also written a guide to trail bike riding which will be helpful for those looking for thrills and adventures offroad.
2. Decide whether to buy private or through dealerships
After you’ve transcended the biggest problem that total beginners face, it’s time to decide how you want to purchase your new bike. You can choose dealerships or private, with each having their pros and cons. We wouldn’t necessarily say that one is better than the other.
Dealerships are often preferred by total beginners. See, when you have issues with your motorcycle in the early months, then it’s easier to get protected as a buyer. They might sort out issues especially if you’ve purchased protection gear from them previously. Plus you’ll have the knowledge that there is a clear title with no finance owing.
But then again, we didn’t say these are necessarily better. If you’re buying from a dealership then they have overheads which need to be paid. As a result, you can expect to pay a couple of thousand more in overheads. For many dealerships, it’s used bikes that bring them the most profits because they are able to buy these cheap when other riders trade ’em in for a new ADV bike each year.
Private sellers are perceived to be riskier, and the truth is they actually are. Because of this, they can’t inflate their prices as highly otherwise their motorcycle sits up for sale for months. So if you’re buying privately, establish some trust with the buyer.
They should know the answer to practically everything about their used adventure motorcycle. After all – it’s theirs, right? If they are a genuine motorcyclist then they will be eager to show you everything and tell you straight up why they’re selling.
3. Check everything: Engine, Wheels, Frame, Suspension and Bodywork
Don’t simply assume everything is perfect. They may have just brought the motorcycle back from a wash so it’s looking all nice and clean for you.
Even if it is a dealership, you should be going through the motorcycle and look at it from all angles.
The engine shouldn’t be smokey with immediate throttle response. If it appears jerky or omits some strange noises, then red flags should be raised.
Any recent engine rebuilds should come with receipts. These will be handy to deal with warranty issues down the track.
Look at the wheels and tyres. The spokes should be dead straight, the brake calibres adjusted properly and the tyre wears very even.
A tricky thing to observe properly is the frame. I once sold a dirt bike that unfortunately had a twisted frame from an earlier crash, yet none of us detected it during the inspection. Luckily it was sold to a friend of mine who was able to remedy it very easily.
The suspension should compress and release very smoothly. There shouldn’t be any leaks on the seals and you can test this by sitting on the bike and jumping up and down with your backside. If the seller lets you go for a quick ride, then even better!
Our very last point is motorcycle bodywork. While it’s quite obvious, the bodywork gives tell-tale signs of prior use. If the owner has ever sustained a big crash, then this generally shows up on the bodywork unless they have had the decals recently changed. Look for scratches, dents but also signs of aftermarket parts and replacements.
It’s always wise to get a mate to come along with you for assurance.
4. Take the used ADV motorcycle for a test ride
Unlike a dirt bike or MX bike for the tracks, almost every adventure motorcycle is already registered. That is – there isn’t any reason that an owner shouldn’t let you have a ride unless you don’t have a licence already.
It doesn’t have to be a long test ride at all. 10 minutes max. It’s just a chance for you to make that final decision on whether this is your ideal ADV motorcycle or not.
Leave some equity behind for the owner. If you’ve parked your car in front of their house then simply leave your car keys with them and your licence as well. It will give them confidence knowing that you aren’t going to literally steal the bike during the inspection.
During the test ride, don’t be afraid to rev the bike a little and really use the clutch. You can also perform two brake tests; one each for front and rears.
Arrange this test ride before the inspection and don’t forget to bring some riding gear. A helmet isn’t enough especially for your first ride when you’re unfamiliar with the handling of an adventure motorcycle.
5. Perform online background checks
Now that you’ve found the bike and inspected it, don’t hand over your hard-earned money right away. Some background checks which you can do via your smartphone are necessary. You’ll want to check its registration history, insurance and if any finance is owing.
Depending on your country, there are various ways in which to do this. If you’re buying from a dealership then there is nothing to worry about in this regard.
It’s always easier dealing with someone local in your area. If they are apart of a motorcycling group like ADV Rider with frequent contributions then it’s even better. That reputation that they have built up over time says something about their character offline and it’s something they’ll likely want to uphold.
The motorcycle should also have a logbook with detailed servicing history. Unlike dirt bikes where owners generally do their work in the garage at home, ADV riders generally get their bikes serviced at dealerships across the country. For that reason – you’ll likely find a strong history. If it isn’t there, then be warned.
While we often do it on cars, we forget often to check the VIN number and engine number on used ADV motorcycles, or in fact, any kind of 2-wheeled machine. These should correspond to the seller’s paperwork. If the motorcycle is unregistered then these are going to be harder to verify, but 98% of bikes are registered.
If you buy from auction houses, these generally don’t have any logbooks however there won’t be any financed owed after you make your purchase.
6. Transact and purchase your motorcycle
Now the time has finally come! You’ve done your research and you’re ready to make that purchase. This is where you’ll need your paperwork in order.
Purchasing a used ADV motorcycle is just the same as purchasing a car in most cases. If it’s done via a dealer then they will sort almost everything for you.
Before you ride off, you’ll want to purchase insurance. This covers you in case you crash the motorcycle on your way home and damage the bike and other property.
You’ll generally need the details of yourself and the buyer. Both parties will need to supply their driver’s licence numbers and addresses on the paperwork.
Depending on your country, you may have to pay stamp duty on the purchase price. This is a marginally small amount as used ADV bikes are affordable.
Lastly – just like the test ride – don’t forget your gear! You’ll want to ride your motorcycle home successfully and confidently, so dress the part.
In summary
It’s both exciting and nerve-racking to purchase a used ADV motorcycle. If you’re too worried then pay the premium and use a dealership. They will also have affordable financing options which are hard to get privately, as well as insurance offers.
For private sales, it’s always good to bring a friend along to the inspection. Often that 3rd set of eyes can spot things that you otherwise can’t see.
Don’t forget to take it easy for the first few rides. Ease your way into it and we’ll see you out there on the trails.
